| Mitzi Bond Declaration - as text | ||
| Thursday, March 03 2005 @ 11:22 AM EST | ||
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Here's the Mitzi Bond Declaration as text, thanks to juliac, who did the transcription for us. SCO submitted this to buttress its claim that AT&T licenses meant to control not only the code but also methods and concepts in derivatives and modifications by licensees. Ms. Bond takes it one extreme step further, to espouse a "mental contamination" theory, whereby, if I have understood the theory, any programmer who was exposed to Unix System V could never write anything again for anybody, including himself, without AT&Tpotentially being able to claim control, due to his "mental contamination". Ms. Bond would like us to believe that IBM, with some of the finest attorneys in the world and intending to do modifications and derivative works, being at the time in the software business, signed a contract like that. If you were the most lowly and financially desperate of programmers, would you? Not unless you wished to be unemployable by anyone else from that day onward. You couldn't even safely work for yourself, with the broad brush Ms. Bond uses to paint with. Do compare what Ms. Bond has to say here with the historical material Dr Stupid unearthed on what Ms. Bond said in the 80s that directly contradicts this current testimony. She also makes an extraordinary claim in paragraph 9: "9. In my experience, AT&T refused to compromise its core intellectual property protections -- even in response to specific licensee requests and even at the expense of losing prospective licensees. I am not aware of any instance in which AT&T agreed (in any licensee agreement or any supplement, modification, or side letter thereto) to reduce AT&T's protection under a UNIX license so as to protect against the unauthorized use or disclosure of just source code." IBM's license is here. And here is the Side Letter, their Sublicensing Agreement , the Supplement 170 Agreement, the Letter Agreement Amendment to 170and Amendment X, which do all the things Ms. Bond claims she never knew AT&T to do. These are all from Groklaw's Contracts page. Obviously, IBM has precisely such side letters and supplemental agreements, and in fact, in SCO's March 6, 2003 termination letter to IBM over AIX, SCO references the Side Letter and it chose the longer notice time of a side letter instead of the shorter notice time in the original license, so while Ms. Bond may be unaware of any such instance of AT&T altering terms by means of a side letter, SCO is obviously acknowledging that Side Letter. Their letter even tells IBM that it is bound by the Side Letter. And in the Side Letter you will find this paragraph: "2. Regarding Section 2.01, we agree that modifications and derivative works prepared by or for you are owned by you. However, ownership of any portion or portions of SOFTWARE PRODUCTS included in any such modification or derivative work remains with us." SCO's letter doesn't reference that paragraph, and instead it quotes the original language found in the License Agreement. Dirty pool. Anyway, Ms. Bond may be having some trouble remembering things that happened so long ago. Or maybe she wasn't at a high enough level to know the whole story. "In the negotiations leading up to the execution of the E-SOFT-00089 Agreement, USL initially proposed language providing that any derivative work 'based on' the licensed materials was to be treated as licensed software. The University objected to that language, however, and insisted that it be changed to cover only derivative works 'that contain' licensed software. USL accepted this modification, providing a new version of the E-SOFT-00089 Agreement in which the language 'based on' licensed materials had been changed to 'that contains' licensed software. (Wilson Dep. T., Exh. D-67 and D-68 (attached as Exhibits Y and Z to the Forte Aff.). So IBM was not the only licensee to obtain alterations in the wording to make sure modifications and derivatives were *not* under AT&T's control. Ms. Bond also claims educational and commercial licenses were essentially the same, but you can read them for yourself, and I believe you will come to a different conclusion. Here is an educational license and here's a commercial one. I can't understand why SCO thought this declaration would help them. A little fact checking, and it sort of goes up in smoke. For example, she tells us what her testimony in the BSDi case was, but not completely. She doesn't inform us, although Dr Stupid does, that she changed her testimony after a lunch break conference with AT&T's then-attorney. ********************************* Brent O. Hatch (5715) Robert Silver (admitted pro hac vice) Stephen N. Zack (admitted pro hac vice) Attorneys for Plaintiff IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
1 I, Mitzi D. Bond, declare as follows: 1. I submit this Declaration in connection with The SCO Group v. International Business Machines Corporation, No. 2:03CV0294DAK (D. Utah 2003). 2. From 1983 to 1994, I was employed by AT&T (or one of its subsidiary or successor entities) in licensing the UNIX operating system. During that time, I worked in Greensboro, North Carolina, for various entities -- including, from approximately 1983 to 1993, AT&T and then UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. ("USL"); and, from approximately 1993 to 1994, Novell. 3. During my tenure at AT&T and USL, I held several positions in the UNIX software sales and licensing group -- including Contract Manager, Account Executive, Public Relations Associate, and Public Relations Specialist. 4. Shortly after I began working at AT&T, I was involved in the inception of the $ echo newsletter. I served as the editor of that newsletter for the duration of its existence. AT&T used the newsletter to disseminate information to subscribing licensees, including about the requirements of the UNIX software agreements. The newsletter was never intended or designed 2 to have any legal effect, on our licensees or on their license agreements with AT&T. To the contrary, if, for example, the $ echo newsletter announced language that AT&T intended to include in its standard agreement, such language would become part of a licensee's agreement with AT&T only if that licensee executed an agreement containing that language. As the license agreements themselves stated, each individual licensee's rights and obligations were governed by that particular licensee's signed license agreement. 5. In each of my capacities at AT&T and USL, and during my entire tenure with those companies, I was trained to understand the intent and meaning of the standard software agreements under which AT&T and USL licensed the UNIX software product, and I was called upon to communicate that understanding to UNIX licensees and prospective licensees. 6. I came to my understanding of the intent and meaning of the UNIX software license agreements through, among other things, formal training involving, among others, attorneys Marty Pfeffer and Burt Levine (who were our principal legal contacts) and supervisors Otis Wilson, Keith Tester, and David Frasure; as well as informal discussions with my fellow contract managers/account executives, including, among others, Steve Vuksanovich, Evelyn 3 Davis and Chuck Greene. The UNIX licensing group regularly attended staff meetings, where we would discuss issues relating to the UNIX agreements. 7. Based on the above-described training and discussions with my former colleagues, as well as my own reading of the UNIX software license agreements, I know that those agreements were designed and intended to safeguard AT&T's valuable tangible and intangible property rights in UNIX with strict contractual protections that went beyond safeguarding just the source code in the original licensed UNIX product. For example:
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8. During my tenure at AT&T and USL, I regularly communicated these core contractual protections to UNIX licensees and prospective licensees, including, for example, when I dealt directly with such parties in my capacities as an Account Executive and Contract Manager. In communicating the contractual protections to such parties, I often relied on consultation with AT&T's attorneys. 9. In my experience, AT&T refused to compromise its core intellectual property protections -- even in response to specific licensee requests and even at the expense of losing prospective licensees. I am not aware of any instance in which AT&T agreed (in any licensee agreement or any supplement, modification, or side letter thereto) to reduce AT&T's protection under a UNIX license so as to protect against the unauthorized use or disclosure of just source code. 10. Like many AT&T and USL Account Executives and Contract Managers, I handled educational licenses along with commercial and governmental licenses. The terms of all 5 of AT&T's UNIX license agreements -- commercial, educational and governmental -- contained substantially the same core protections for AT&T's technological innovations, and the training I received concerning those protections applied across the board to all of those types of licenses. 11. In November and December of 1992, in the case of Unix System Laboratories v. Berkeley Software Design, et al., I testified about the scope of the UNIX license agreement protections in connection with a lawsuit that USL had filed against one of our educational licensees. For example:
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I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed: ______1/4/2004______ __________[signed]__________ 9 |
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